You need to stop, this is not doing any good for Lisa's family. I know/knew them. You really did not, so stop. Never heard her mention you so can't be to close to them, but I was, and know Lisa would be appauled at all of this. What are you doing? Are you the kind of person that just wants some sort of publicity or gets a kick out of this horrible situation? Do you have a real life? If so, it is sad life Get some class. Although it will never be over for her real family, it is done and you should be.

All of you should.

I have read this entire website. All I can still say is unbelievable. I am Lisa's cousin and I have been in the courtroom all week. I was there to hear the lies unfold. I even got to tell Steve Barbee what I thought he was. We hurt tremendously from our loss. Lisa was the only daughter and Jayden was the only grandson. We have an ultrasound picture of baby Marleigh. Steve Barbee and Ron Dodd took the only child and grandchildren Sheila had. There are so many comments I would like to address but I can't and won't. No one can even speculate what our family has been through this week and a half. No matter how much you think you know you, you have not a clue. We had our last word with Steve now it's Ron Dodd's turn. I am begging anyone with information on the ongoing investigation with Dodd to call The D.A.'s office and talk to Kevin Russeau. Our family has been thru hell. Nothing will bring Lisa, Jayden, & Marleigh back to us. Steve Barbee dying won't bring them back infact General Population would have caused him more harm that a prick in the arm. One of his confessions to Trish even said and I quote " You should have seen the look in her eyes". Here is a taste of reality for every monster on this site. He was talking about Lisa's eyes! Think about that. Ron Dodd pranced into that courtroom and pled the 5th. He knew Jayden was there because Steve told him that, the first time he went over there that night. Then Ron asked if he should hire a hitman to kill them. Then Ron took him back a 2cd time to kill them. That is when Steve brutally murdered my cousin Lisa her unborn daughter Marleigh and our precious Jayden. Ron then helped Steve dispose of several things including Lisa and Jayden. They were dragged thru barbwire and put in a shallow grave with each other. That is a taste of what we have been thru this week. We want JUSTICE not revenge. Please help our family get it!!!! For Lisa, Jayden & Marleigh. WE ask that people stop speculating unless you were there. This is our family that you are tearing to pieces. We are real people not just an article you read about in the paper. Our family has been courteous to the Barbee's by not speaking out about them in the media. We don't blame them for their son's behavior. We have talked to Trish and she didn't have a clue what she was married to. When Steve confessed to her he never told her he killed Jayden too. Steve showed no remorse for his actions. He has had many women even before Trish divorced him while he was in jail. They came forward as charecter witnesses, one a part of his buffet line. Trish had an awakening at the trial she was decieved. Everyone lost in this battle. No One Has A Greater Loss Here Than Sheila Underwood do not even try to put yourself in her shoes ever. She has nothing left of her only daughter but the good Memories of Lisa and our little Boopa. Please contact Kevin Russeau if you have any information on Dodd. WE WANT JUSTICE NOT REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Don't let Ron get away with MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Cassandra,

I remember you & Ron from the old dope days. Of course, I understand you're still living them. I thought that you refused to get the DNA testing done to prove your daughter was Ron's, and that was why you moved out of town because you sued for child support & then got cold feet about having to prove whose kid she was? Was he violent when you were together because you were performing strip-o-grams and other things like that? I wouldn't drag up your stuff like this, but for you to drag up Ron's past, I thought people should consider the source.

The condom issue. Don't be fooled by their effectiveness! This is what lead my "brother" into thinking he wasn't the father of the baby. He had always worn one, and he trusted that. It's also what lead Lisa into thinking the baby wasn't his. I can only guess it's what lead Barbee into thinking the baby was his.

It took my "brother's" DNA matching that of a murdered, unborn child to prove to him that condoms aren't always successful. It took Barbee murdering three people to prove to him that waiting for a paternity test might be the best option available for a man pinpointed as a father.

yeah, I was "really asking" why Trish divorced him AFTER she made herself look like an idiot by standing by someone who had just confessed to killing a pregnant woman and a little boy....a little boy that is very close to the same age as Trish's son I might add....so my question was directed to someone with some insight as to WHY it took her so long to wake the hell up and do what anybody with a brain would've done before speaking to the press about how her husband was an "angel" that "loved children" and would "never" do something like that.........

obviously, neither of them have a lot of sense......him for not FIRST finding out if he was even the father and her for standing by him before she had all the facts about the man she married who obviously only showed her ONE of his MANY personalities.........

I was wondering if anyone knew what prompted Trish to proceed with divorcing SB, other than the obvious. She was very much on "his side" in the beginning. Also, is Trish and/or Theresa attending the trial? I knew Steve real well - and I was just cuious how he seemed to be reacting to the news about the DNA. I'm assuming he had no idea there was even a remote possibility that the baby wasn't his or did he?? Just curious...

Although I knew Steve, and even considered him a friend, I know he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent the law will allow. I believe our justice sytem will deliver this verdict and while it will certainly not bring back the victims he unnecessarily took from this world, the family will be allowed to move forward once he has been punished on Earth, and take comfort that he will eventually be judged by the ONE that counts the most.

Bless the family of Lisa Underwood. My prayers will also be with Steve's parents.....he is the only surviving child of the Barbee's and now he will be put to death.

I can't let some of these comments go on unchallenged. I am the former brother-in-law of the baby's father. I still call him "my Brother" and he refers to me in this way, if that tells you anything about him. He and my sister are still great friends. He's an incredible father and has been destroyed by what has happened.

He was never given the chance to believe this baby was his. He ended the relationship with Lisa when she told him she was also seeing Stephen. He did not speak to her again until she called to tell him she was pregnant. He told her he'd do what he had to do if the baby was his, but he was told she didn't think the baby was his, but would have it proved after it was born. He didn't hear anything about it again until the night the police started looking for her.

My "brother" was a customer of Lisa's, then became a friend. Anyone who knew him knew about Lisa, long before he and my sister divorced. He admired her, found her to be terribly funny, thought she was beautiful.......no one was surprised that she was the first woman he asked out following his divorce.

They were a very cute couple and both of them being protective of their children, didn't allow contact with their children until well into the relationship, when it appeared the relationship might be heading somewhere more permanent. Lisa wasn't a bad mother. You don't form and develop a child with the wit, personality and intelligence of Jayden by being a bad and neglectful parent. A bad and neglectful parent doesn't talk about their children and admire them in conversation when not around them. Lisa talk very highly of her son. Very much liked him as a person on his own, too.

To say my "brother" has been avoiding his responsibilities is simple, and idiotic gossip. He contacted the police as soon as he found out Lisa was missing, the night they began looking for her. I accompanied him and sat in the waiting room, while he met with the DA as they questioned him and took his DNA to see if it matched the baby's. This is not a man who has been uninvolved, or neglectful. He's been in contact with the investigators working for the DA. His main fear is that he would be expected to testify in a way that would make Lisa look bad in order to help save Barbee. He loved Lisa, he loved Jayden and he, had he been given the chance, would have loved his new baby. This baby would have been raised as one of our own, and so would have Jayden.

Lisa liked a good time, yes. Perhaps she didn't make some of the best decisions, yes. But she was wonderful to be around. She was a strong, what we would call, a strong "Texas woman". She ran her own business, was loved by her customers, her friends and I'm sure by her family. Was she an angel? Probably not. She left a lot of heartache in her path. But it doesn't invoke the kind of wrath and speculation that I'm reading here. If the people in her life and those affected by her and her decisions and actions don't have such strong, negative opinions, then neither should anyone not involved.

If any of Lisa and Jayden's personal friends and family are reading this, know that your loss is our loss, too. We didn't know Lisa and Jayden as long as you did, we weren't given the chance to know a baby that would have been one of us, but our hearts break with yours. Our hearts hope for you.

I used to live a few blocks from the deli that Ms Underwood owned so when this double murder occured it interested me some. As the details began to unfold it just didn't make any sense. All I could wonder is what kind of pressure could force a man to take the life of two people? Blackmail? Trying to keep a fomer girlfriend quiet? Was Ms Underwood going to try and break up his marriage?

Now that the news has reported that the unborn baby was not Barbee's, I am totally shocked and can only wonder what might have been prevented if only he had known that.

Since you seem to know all the facts, where was Jayden when Lisa was putting closure to the relationship on 7-9-05? Oh, that's right, "Lisa was a modern lady with standards and did not like what she did that day." So do you also know who the father of the unborn child was since DNA proved it was not SB?

My friend Trish is a very wonderful person and is not the bimbo everyone states she is. She is just as much a victim as Lisa Underwood and her children were. Trish had been dating Steve for over a year when they got married in December 2005. They became engaged on July 4, 2005, and started living together at Trish's house. They were madly in love. Steve adored her and her children, and they were planning on having a child together. The evening that this took place Steve had come home late from Tyler where he had been working all week. She had no reason to believe he was doing anything other than coming home from Tyler. She also had no reason to believe he was sleeping with Lisa Underwood while he was living with her. She also had no reason to believe he was even capable of commiting such a horrible crime. He never showed any signs of violence or anger towards her. The only thing she really did notice was the strange interaction and fighting between him and his ex-wife Theresa.

When the police came to her house to talk to Steve, she didn't even know what it was about and Steve later told her that a girl he dated before her was missing and they were asking him questions. Trish was totally in the dark. When he was arrested in Tyler, she was in a state of shock and in big time denial. She made a statement to the press which has caused her much ridicule, but at the time she was not thinking straight. Since that time she has discovered all the lies he told her. Not only was he sleeping with Lisa Underwood while he was living with/engaged to/dating Trish, but he also had some other girls he was supposedly seeing as well. Needless to say, my friend Trish has been through a horrible experience herself. She divorced Steve on February 2, 2006. They have no contact. She loved him, her children loved him, all her friends loved him, we all thought he was the best thing ever. We have all been shocked that he was capable of such a thing, much less that he was cheating on Trish who he adored. None of it makes any sense. The man must have been living a double life. I don't know what happened that night, but those innocent people were killed because of him. Not only has he killed three people, he has hurt all the people in their lives. He also has caused a lot of damage to Trish and her children's lives and all of her friends and family. My friend Trish is going to make it through this and be able to pick up and start a new life for herself. Please do not bad mouth her, she was probably the most innocent victim of all. Contrary to what you all have said, she has not dated and actually doesn't want to date. How can she ever trust again? All of this will be over soon, and hopefully we will have a verdict that will send Stephen Barbee away forever, and then may Lisa, Jayden and the baby rest in peace. They will not be forgotten!

Everyone thinks they know the story but here it is >!!!!How many times do we have to say it?? SB was NOT married when they met or when she got pregnant.(fact) Jayden never met SB,(fact) thats the way lisa was . She did a background check on him it was clean>(fact)Laws fault for not devaulging his past ( fact) There are other woman who stated they dated steve at the same time and all got the same story lisa did >>> im single and recently divorced. (fact) SB hadnt seen LU in months after (fact) SB offered to help (fact) LU didnt want it (fact) SB insisted (fact) Reluctantly Agreed LU (fact) SB wanted to marry her And proposed (fact) LU declined ( Fact) No blackmail exists (fact)

SB marries within 1 month later (fact) SB calls LU after no cantact in 3 to4 weeks and wants to help with birth ( fact) Then Lisa Jayden And Baby marliegh die by his hand (fact) Details are not for people to assume GOD , LU ,JU,MUand only SB know the truth thats 4 against 1. Its sad that 4 voices are silent and only one is heard . Remember YOU think one voice can free you but 4 silent voices can speak the truth in the eyes of God who knows the truth and so do the ones who look deep in there hearts . There is so much more than the heart can comprehend happening here. The only ones left to confirm the facts are SB and GOD Who do you believe ?? Stop the what ifs!! Stop the whos at fault , theres only those left who miss and cry every night for the loss of the ones we love. The ones who have to deal with the pain of the loneliness of loosing a loved one. I cry every night, I regret promises that i couldnt keep because there lives where taken away before i could fullfill them . I had so much more to teach and do with them that i will never have that chance now . Please stop judging , you do not know them but i did , and i will never forget them .I will never stop thinking of them And i wil never stop loving them My heart was removed from this earth when they were removed from this earth and that is a feeling you just cant understand

You are an idiot and your 'handle' name fits you well. How dare you tell Ms. Underwood to "get a grip". Lisa did not want or need that sociopath. I know more than I am able to say at this time, but will get the opportunity. You belong in the same category along with his present and past wives. Sure there is an interesting connection! He was a compulsive liar and sociopath which Lisa came to realize and wanted nothing to do with him other than insurance for her baby. which they BOTH thought was his at the time for good reason. She did not expect anything else and he knew that. She turned down his offer to marry him when she realized what he was and she was going to have DNA tests after Marleigh's birth to verify what they BOTH thought. He knew that, but apparently thought Marleigh was his and knew that if she showed up on insurance, his new wife would find out. He was not married when she got pregnant and she did not know or care that he was married after. Yes, she used bad judgement, but obviously we all do as all interested internet users can see you are full of. Her worst judgement was opening the door to him one more time thinking all the crap he was telling her about wanting to take care of his child was true. Lisa did not need or want him if I may reinterate....she had a business, a supportive family and way too much pride for what you are suggesting. It is sad that people like you exist...I am sure us tax payers will be taking care of you some day just as we are that sociopath. You are pitiful.

And for all of you others who want to bring Jayden's "father" (I use that word VERY loosely) into the picture, let me shine some light on him. Lisa never asked for anything out of Brad. The only reason he paid any form of child support was because the courts ordered him to, not Lisa. And may I also add that he paid money, not visits, not birthday cards, not love. Brad saw Jayden a approximately 5 times in Jayden's short life. Seeing Jayden was not something Brad intiated. Brad came to see his son in Texas once. All of the other visits were made by Lisa and Jayden, and funded by Lisa. Just wanted you all to know.

Do any of us know what it is like to lose a child or grandchild? Much less to have them murdered? This poor woman (Ms. Underwood) is left reading all of your negative comments about her only child. Is this something that you would want to hear or read if you ever have to experience a loss as great as she has? Ease up on her. She has a right to be angry and vent and bad mouth Steven Barbee, Ron Dodd, and even Teresa and Trish Barbee.

To all of those wonderful souls out there who have been nothing but supportive of Lisa, Jayden and Marleigh, thank you. It is great to see that there are people like you in this awful world who are able to speak out and defend those who are unable.

Okay get a grip lady. I understand that she was your daughter and NO mom wants to think that their daughter could be vengeful or could be capable of blackmailing but sometimes we have to take the rose colored glasses off and face the hard cold facts about our children. Don't get me wrong Steve should pay for this horrendous crime and I never said blackmail was a cause for Murder. However everyone wants to say how wonderful Lisa was, well I know people who knew her and sometimes Mothers just don't know everything. She was trying to pin a pregnancy on the wrong guy. Why would she do that? Because one guy had more money than the other. So I am truly sorry for the Lisa, Jayden's and Baby's death it was so senseless and I do hope that Steve and Ron Dodd and anyone else involved burns in hell. But I hope this also sends a message to women out there to women don't use pregnancy or blackmail to get financial gain or a man it never pays and the message to MEN- stop being cowards and come forward when you screw up. The truth sure beats living on death row. Violoence is never the answer. So Ms. Underwood I am sorry you took offense to the truth about your daughter and it is hard to accept when bad things come out But I am quite positive on the other side of Lisa was a good Mom and hard working citizen and SHE DID NOT deserve what happened. Steve's Mom just can't accept or believe that her precious son was capable of this, she is still in denial. I hope everyone can really see this crime for what it was and I hope society can learn from it.

Ahh you must have been one of those poor suckers that knew Steve and was suckered by his charm....But you need to pull the rose colored glass off baby and face reality. Steve confessed, he lead police to the site, so he was involved how much more do you need? Do you think Steve would take a murder wrap for someone else? Heck No. Steve was a gutless coward and in a fit of rage took three lives. Now the question is did he do it alone? Probably not but hopefully that will come out in Ron Dodd's Trial. Theresa, yea maybe she knew something but was smart enough to stay away from the crime scene. But hopefully justice will prevail soon and Steve will go to the Big House pending death, Ron will get his 20 years if not more and well Hopefully investigators will find something to link Theresa Barbee to it if she played any part in it.

The families and Friends of both Steve and Lisa are left behind angry and bitter. This was just senseless. Well Stephen was it worth it? You gutless coward. There are no comforting words for the victims families.

All the Stephen supporters claim Accident, Bi-Polar, Head Injury, whatever he was a scared man who lost control. There is no excuse!!!!!

This site is was created for the public to express their thoughts and opinions. Not just friends or family. If the opinions of others are upsetting you; don't open the site. Give it a rest.

Yes, well Dodd moved into Teresa's 450,000 dollar house the day who after Steve moved out 2 years ago. They did not like each other, so who convinced Dodd to help Steve cover up and why? Who had the most to lose from the murders coming out as done by Stephen? Lisa was a wonderful Mother, friend and member of the community. Mourn her loss with her family. It was a huge loss, an unbearable loss. She was an only child. Jayden was the smartest little boy ever!! And the nicest!!! And the cutest!!! He would have gone far in this world.

I also knew Steve Barbee, he was a very angry person, he liked to argue all the time...But there were times when he was the most hilarious person to be around...he seemed to be so down to earth....I also knew who Ron Dodd was also...And by no means would I ever suspect him to be involved in something so horrible...I used to believe, not for a minute that Steve could commit a murder even hit a woman, but I obviously was very wrong...Steve could change emotions so fast you wouldn't even know why....I think that Steve's and Lisa's relationship is a lot more complicated than any of us know...I do know that he never mentioned her and he was all about Trish...and no I don't put it past Lisa to blackmail him....I don't know her, but most women act the same...all of you know that you would have acted just like her...you would have wanted something for your baby's father...REGAURDLESS....help of some sort...and that seemed to be the best way for her to handle it, she tried blackmail....when it didn't work for her things obviously got really ugly...for the whole family...MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL OF THEM...LISA, JAYDEN, BABY GIRL, HER FAMILY....EVEN STEVE'S FAMILY....no one wants to go thru this....I hope that Steve gets what he deserves...and if Ron had anything to do with the murders than I hope he gets the same...no one should get off easy for any crime, especially one like this...I agree with the saying..EYE FOR AN EYE...EAR FOR AN EAR...I wish I could sit in the courtroom when this jerk gets his sentencing...

You need to go back to school and quit worrying so much about everyone else and work on yourself. Look at all of the mistakes you made!!!!! (I'm sure your background is squeaky clean, right?)

I knew Steve as well. e was an idiot in school. Anythime something went wrong, Steve was to blame. He stole money and jewelry from students lockers. He was a bully. He would fight anyone he thought he could beat up. He even paid a girl $5 in 5th grade so he could finger her. He was connected with a lot of crime in Azle - from breaking into and robbing many stores and businesses. He stole vehicles as well. He was just a piece of ****. I don't know how people can say he was a nice guy. He was polite at times, but he was just a snake-oil salesman. He was like a cult leader, he prayed on the innocent and was able to conivince many people to take the blaim or punishment so he would never go to jail. Many of people protected him over the ears as he committed these crimes. He just thought he was above the law.

There is so much to comment on. I was, guess still am, a personal friend of Lisa and Jayden. Sorry, I can't get more detailed than that. This article was written before many of the facts were presented. Unfortunately, the author seemed to throw a softball to the "posters" below and wrote some stupid misinformed comments on strangers to him (my guess is the Author is a man). The Author is refuting the old "Sticks and stones..." theory. Sounds like the Author is a man who is ridiculed by women often...be careful Mrs. Author if there is one. The Author is either mocking us or disturbed and wanting to lash out. I will leave Jayden out of this post since we can all agree to the senselessness of SB's actions toward him. It was a callous, chickenshit, and heinous act. Continuing...SB was recently divorced to Theresa when he and Lisa started their romantic relationship. SB and Lisa saw little of each other recently outside the bagel shop, except to discuss their unborn daughter. Lisa wanted health insurance for the girl she called a mistake and then a blessing and was prepared to raise their daughter on her own. I don't, for a second, believe she intended to "blackmail" him. From my experience with her, she never knew he married Patricia in Las Vegas, November 2004. She would have mentioned it if she had known...she was pretty open with her good friends. I have the feeling Lisa found out on the night she and her children were murdered. There are details that I can't mention, for obvious reasons, which will show you more dark aspects to SB. I never met him, except as a fellow patron to the bagel shop, so I can't remark about his personality or manner. Lisa did not have a great opinion of him, lately, but she also did not hate him. SB says he was attacked by Lisa before he punched her repeatedly and suffocated her on her floor. I have a hard time believing a woman just over 5 feet, 7 months pregnant, much, much heavier due to the pregnancy, and tired from working all day at her shop could "attack" anyone. Kicking him in the shins is probably the best she could do to protect herself. The new wife Patricia sounds like she was duped by SB, too. She should return to reality soon...the shock will subside with time and counseling. If she's innocent, I hope the best for her and her family. I also want to extend my sympathy to the Bill and Jackie Barbee and family. They have had a sad, heartbreaking, and unfair series of events that took away their children by no fault of their own. Two died in terrible accidents and one was led by the Devil. FactsStraight, Aimee, and Ginger are painting SB with pretty colors and excuses. We all know he did it. You remind me of his new wife...can't and won’t believe he can be bad. Consider you all duped, too. Don't get me wrong, Lisa was no "Angel." When she could, Lisa liked to go out on dates, hang out with friends, drink a little, and have fun. However, she was an atypical single mother who adored and protected her children to no end. As far as I knew, she never let her dates meet Jayden. Ironic, that Jayden first met SB when SB was killing his mother and sister. Ronald Dodd's story is the biggest crock of #$%@, too. He will be charged with a felony in connection with these murders, soon, and be sent back to prison. Theresa Barbee sure can pick them. How DO they afford that 4600 square foot home? The trial, what there will be of it, will be a "he said...she said" without the "she." Best way to win a debate is to eliminate the opponent. Hopefully, character will play a large roll. He should see a short trip to Death Row and a place in line at the express lane. If I had my way, I'd make his bail $2.00 and let the citizens and I have a crack at him. Rest in peace children...

Twinkle - I never said Steve was innocent, I never agreed with what has happened, I think it is terrible that lives have been taken and they will never get a chance to say anything more about what happened or change things. I did however say that his wife was innocent in all of this and she does not deserve to be drug through the ringer.

To those of you who are saying things about his wife - Do y'all think that she just met him, and got married the night she met him? No!!!! Yes, she has only been MARRIED for two months, but that doesn't mean that they haven't been dating for a long time. Yes, Steve messed around behind her back and that infuriates me, surprises me, but infuriates me. But you know what, she has known him for a long time and he has been nothing but wonderful to her, with the exception of us now knowing that he was lying and sneaking around behind her back, but she loves her husband - she doesn't love what has happened - but she does love her husband. Leave her out of your hate. SHE did nothing!

Steve will pay for what has happened. Unfortunately his wife's life and the friends and family of Lisa will never be the same. A tragedy has happened and we are ALL suffering for it. Why bring more hatred into an already horrific incident. What they need now is our love and compassion - not rude and ugly comments.

To Ginger and her comments, No one has to paint a picture, it is what it is, Your friend SB is not a monster, there are no such things as monsters, He is a murderer, You say he has the best personality and loves life,, Thats a joke, He just took three innocent lives, Lisa Jayden, and the baby. What makes you think Lisa wanted him, maybe at one time but when he showed his true colors and married someone else AFTER he got her pregnant, all she was wanting was for him to pay for insurance on the baby. But I guess that was too much to ask for considering he was paying a small amount of child support for the 11 year old daughter that lives in Flordia that he NEVER has had anything to do with her, and with his recent marriage, I believe it was in December, and I am sure that he was not honest with her and told her about the situation, If he could have been a man and talked to his new wife about his affair befor they got married then together they could have found a solution and you state his innocent wife is having to deal with this now, at least she still has her life, and family, Really they havent even been married that long, and the relationship was not a n honest one, I guess if she decides to STAND BY HER MAN she will just have to suck it up and deal with it.

Of course everyone is going to paint a pretty picture of Lisa and make Steve look like a monster. If Steve was such a monster, why was Lisa still wanting him, calling him, maybe even emailing him. I'm sure she told her friends what a wonderful guy Steve is, but of course they aren't going to come forward and mention that to the press.

I know Steve personally and I was completely shocked when I heard the news. I thought for sure they had the wrong man or that he is covering for someone. The Steve that I, and others, know is a guy that loves to play around, joke, laugh, and has a great sense of humor. He has the best personality and loves life.

Something made him snap unfortunately. I just don't understand it, I'm not condoning it, and it saddens my heart to know that so many people are affected by this. I hate that two innocent lives were lost, Jayden and the baby girl, and I hate that an innocent person, his wife, is having to deal with all of this now. Those are the three true victims in this tragedy.